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| funmi |
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aboga wrote: People magazine's decision to highlight certain blogs is annoying to me. They completely missed the point in some of John's more significant blogs.
and I'm going with funmi on that gravity introduction, esp with what he wrote about Chicago. But, he was also making public love declarations about Jessica on the last tour so who knows
i think when he was talking about love this instance he was talking to the fan, they were the ones he was addressing and he saidas he was addressing them i take it to mean he was talking about their love for him. |
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| RnR4eva |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:12 pm |
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| I heard it differently because of how he went into it talking about back when he was a teenager..., thinking love was a joke..., how he finally grew up... etc. He has said that same sentiments before on love and relationships, but that's just my interpretation. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:23 pm |
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RnR4eva wrote: I heard it differently because of how he went into it talking about back when he was a teenager..., thinking love was a joke..., how he finally grew up... etc. He has said that same sentiments before on love and relationships, but that's just my interpretation.
I agree with you Kamia. I think he was talking about loving a woman and about family love and not about the fans. He talked about them the same night before this love monologue. It was like telling them how great it is to love someone, how beautiful life is when you love. |
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| aboga |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:36 pm |
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John's been pretty vocal about love, growing up, having a family since 2003. Some of his most famous or infamous (depending on how you look at it) is based on all those things, and they've usually been repeated right before some major, emotional songs.
He said those same things, albeit a little differently with how he was done with hollywood, feb of this year. |
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| funmi |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:43 pm |
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i always feel the best thing to do is not take any thing he say on stage/lyrics in relation to his relationships. i have never done that no matter who he is dating, cos the john mayer on stage is sperate to the person he is dating and i dont feel that everything he says while performing is in relation to his lovelife but rather it a relationship between him and the fans.
that just how i see, but i guess everyone is different |
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| RnR4eva |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:55 pm |
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| I was saying I don't think he was talking about love in reference to his fans, to me he was talking about love as in relationships, like I said in my previous post, sentiments he has said before. Not that he was talking about/referring to anyone specifically. However, would it be so wrong if he was? Maybe not in the latest video,but during some songs on this current tour I do think he was making little references to his current situation. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:59 pm |
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The banter is something that makes John shows special to a lot of people who attend, if the banter wasn't there, something would be missing from his shows.
I personally like when he speaks about his brother (i.e. NY show) or about his family because you can tell just how much from the heart those statements come from |
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| Julie. |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:52 pm |
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It could have been about his fans, it could have been about his family, his dog or his girlfriend - John is meaningful and good with words, and sometimes you have to read between the lines to get it, he is not shallow and his banters always carries outspoken messages.
Honestly, last night it wasn't about his fans, it was about having a true love in your life, whoever you are, whoever your loved person is. He talks about feeling love in life and being loved back; all we've gone through, all the love drama, the silly thoughts, and how it turned out to him, he ends saying "it is true", that little phrase in the end gave it all away.
It is not turning this into Jennifer. John Mayer doesn't breath, nor talk Jennifer Aniston 24/7 like most people think or want it to be, relationships don't work that way, but last night he was talking about his current situation.
Love can bring a lot of positivity, Jennifer is part of this moment of his life, we can't deny that, so is his family, his friends. He is in a good place with his life, and it's obvious(!), it is written all over his smiley face, his change of attitude, and on his drop dead awesome summer tour. You can't ignore the fact one of his best friends, whom John knows since sixth grade, wrote a couple of days ago - at the largest John Mayer fan board - that he has never seen his friend in such good spirit like he is right now. That speak volumes.
What John did or said in the past, is just that, his past. It doesn't matter anymore. I am happy for him. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:06 pm |
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I'm glad that John is on this tour and in good spirits. I know that this tour was definitely planned by his management and most people, including himself weren't quite ready to go out on tour, because frankly he's toured out. He also wasn't touring on any new matieral, which is another factor that made this tour a bit difficult, but this tour has been a pleasent surprise to anyone who has attended or anyone watching.Obviously, to the consumer, watching John put on a good show is fantastic because well frankly they are paying to watch him.
The debate over the banter and who it's addressing or not addressing is silly to me because frankly as I've stated before, the banter is what makes the shows hilarious and unique.
Whomever he's addressing whether it be the crowd, his personal life, his family, his friends, etc. has obviously impacted him in a positive way during what is probably a transitory time for him.
I have friends who have gone to about 9-10 shows on this tour and I have yet to hear one negative thing about it. John is classic John at the meet and greets and the shows seem to be a ton of fun (they would know, they've been to at least 1 show on every tour).
There's been a lot more crowd interaction on this tour, and the fans are loving every bit of it.
This was way too much than what I had intended to post, but I just thought it was interesting to share some perspective on this tour based on how many my friends and I have seen in the past. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:44 pm |
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| I don't think any of us can know exactly what John meant in his monologue. To me, personally, it sounded like he was speaking about the love you find in a relationship. And yes, he isn't talking about Jennifer in all of his monologues, and he isn't thinking about hidden messages in the songs he selects, but there are times that it seems that he does make little comments or monologues or even may pick on song that could be related to his relationship with Jennifer (like when he changed the encore in Toronto to include "Every time you go away" when Jennifer was flying out of Toronto). But that is just my opinion. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:13 pm |
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I agree..I think he was talking in general, refering to all kind of relationship that love might come from..but I do think that all these monolougues are, in a way or another, influenced by his personal life, his experiences (he is obviously in a good place right now), and it's a great way to communicate with the fans, let them know his thoughts, let them kown the real John..
Quote: (like when he changed the encore in Toronto to include "Every time you go away" when Jennifer was flying out of Toronto). But that is just my opinion.
How he changend the lyrics?
I didn't notice.. |
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tassia wrote: I agree..I think he was talking in general, refering to all kind of relationship that love might come from..but I do think that all these monolougues are, in a way or another, influenced by his personal life, his experiences (he is obviously in a good place right now), and it's a great way to communicate with the fans, let them know his thoughts, let them kown the real John..
Quote: (like when he changed the encore in Toronto to include "Every time you go away" when Jennifer was flying out of Toronto). But that is just my opinion.
How he changend the lyrics?
I didn't notice..
He didn't change the words that I know of, but according to the set list that was posted on his web site, he was supposed to play some other song, and he played that one. Could have been a coincidence, but it just seemed to be a bit more than that to me. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:06 am |
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he's been changing the set list every night while the band is still performing(i.e. the change from stiched up to mercy last night). he's experimenting with the music he's performing
but we all have our own opinoins on what is said and what is actually meant. everyone speculated on lyrics during the 2007 summer tour because of his relationship status
on the mayercraft, he even said that people are going to speculate and put names to faces about the songs he's written and sings about, and that he finds that weird but it's not something he can control |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:01 am |
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It is weird when people assume he is talking his personal life 100% of the time [during concerts], I think it is more about life experiences and life lessons than anything else.
But he doesn't fool anyone, he does talk about his life and his concerns onstage without mention names, nor make references. He wasn't talking about people/fans in general when he had all those monologues about fame, pr spin, paparazzis, etc., he was talking about himself, you can not relate to such thing.
I understand comparisons are inevitables at some point, but I think we should avoid them. John was living another phase in his life when he was dating Jessica Simpson, he has changed substantially since a year ago. Every relationship is different, because it takes two persons to make it work, John may have his own mannerism with women, but Jessica is one person and Jennifer is another, they most probably deal with it in different ways, therefore two different situations/relationships here. |
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Julie. wrote:
But he doesn't fool anyone, he does talk about his life and his concerns onstage without mention names, nor make references. He wasn't talking about people/fans in general when he had all those monologues about fame, pr spin, paparazzis, etc., he was talking about himself, you can not relate to such thing.
LOL. No kidding. 
and none of us really knew what happened in any of his relationships, hence the mayercraft quote i mentioned above... |
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